Comments on: Ministering in a Difficult Church http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/ Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:32:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Christian Smoker http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2412 Christian Smoker Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:08:06 +0000 http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/#comment-2412 [...] Articles:Ministering in a Difficult Church (Said at Southern Seminary) I think Dr. Lawless’ message should be heard by all aspiring ministers. There are too many students at Southern and other seminaries who are attending not because they need to learn anything–they already know everything. Rather, they are attending simply to gain credibility. In essence their education has become the choice idol they would rather worship. [...] [...] Articles:Ministering in a Difficult Church (Said at Southern Seminary) I think Dr. Lawless’ message should be heard by all aspiring ministers. There are too many students at Southern and other seminaries who are attending not because they need to learn anything–they already know everything. Rather, they are attending simply to gain credibility. In essence their education has become the choice idol they would rather worship. [...]

]]> By: Brother Hank http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2257 Brother Hank Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:52:28 +0000 http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/#comment-2257 Cent- I already bought one each of your "Spurgeon is my homeboy" and "Calvin is my homeboy" t-shirts. I'd be first in line at cafe press to by the "Stinky Shepherd" shirt... <em>Brother Hank's last blog post..<a href='http://lawngospel.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/standing-out-in-the-cold-further-confessions-of-a-christian-pro-life-activist/' rel="nofollow">Standing Out In The Cold: Further Confessions of a Christian Pro-Life Activist</a></em> Cent-

I already bought one each of your “Spurgeon is my homeboy” and “Calvin is my homeboy” t-shirts. I’d be first in line at cafe press to by the “Stinky Shepherd” shirt…

Brother Hank’s last blog post..Standing Out In The Cold: Further Confessions of a Christian Pro-Life Activist

]]> By: centuri0n http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2253 centuri0n Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:46:08 +0000 http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/#comment-2253 A while back at my blog, my pastor and I traded some ideas about Andy Stanley's view of leadership in ministry, and his statement in CT that there's nothing specifically spiritual about being the head guy in a local church -- meaning, I think, that running the organization was not a specifically-spiritual issue. Be that as it may, I shared that with my wife, and she said to me that people who think that the CEO is the right model for being a pastor have it utterly upside-down and backwards. She said that a pastor is a lot more like a kindergarten teacher -- he has to somehow know here everyone is, make sure everyone gets their naps and is learning their lessons, teaches them to treat each other kindly, and isn't afraid to get a little dirty in the process. Then she stopped a minute and said, "I mean, he's a shepherd. He should smell like the sheep." I wanted to make that into a t-shirt, but I didn't think anyone would buy one. <em>centuri0n's last blog post..<a href='http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2008/02/not-gospel.html' rel="nofollow">Not the Gospel</a></em> A while back at my blog, my pastor and I traded some ideas about Andy Stanley’s view of leadership in ministry, and his statement in CT that there’s nothing specifically spiritual about being the head guy in a local church — meaning, I think, that running the organization was not a specifically-spiritual issue.

Be that as it may, I shared that with my wife, and she said to me that people who think that the CEO is the right model for being a pastor have it utterly upside-down and backwards. She said that a pastor is a lot more like a kindergarten teacher — he has to somehow know here everyone is, make sure everyone gets their naps and is learning their lessons, teaches them to treat each other kindly, and isn’t afraid to get a little dirty in the process.

Then she stopped a minute and said, “I mean, he’s a shepherd. He should smell like the sheep.”

I wanted to make that into a t-shirt, but I didn’t think anyone would buy one.

centuri0n’s last blog post..Not the Gospel

]]> By: Morris Brooks http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2229 Morris Brooks Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:36:58 +0000 http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/#comment-2229 Great post. The two books by Glen Damon on pastoring and leading the small church should be required reading for every final year seminarian. They are full of the practical humility that flowed from Dr. Lawless' message and are beneficial for a pastor of any size church. <em>Morris Brooks's last blog post..<a href='http://morris-pressingon.blogspot.com/2008/01/preaching-to-mind.html' rel="nofollow">Preaching to the Mind</a></em> Great post. The two books by Glen Damon on pastoring and leading the small church should be required reading for every final year seminarian. They are full of the practical humility that flowed from Dr. Lawless’ message and are beneficial for a pastor of any size church.

Morris Brooks’s last blog post..Preaching to the Mind

]]> By: Aaron Hawk http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2227 Aaron Hawk Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:02:04 +0000 http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/#comment-2227 That is a timeless and challenging message that encourages me, but also cuts me to the heart… may we continually remain humbled by our calling. I am living proof that the Lord calls the foolish!!! <em>Aaron Hawk's last blog post..<a href='http://a-hawk.blogspot.com/2008/02/brothers-and-sisters-are-we-supplement.html' rel="nofollow">Brothers and Sisters are We (?/!) – Supplement to Part Two B – Analyzing Overanalyzing</a></em> That is a timeless and challenging message that encourages me, but also cuts me to the heart… may we continually remain humbled by our calling. I am living proof that the Lord calls the foolish!!!

Aaron Hawk’s last blog post..Brothers and Sisters are We (?/!) – Supplement to Part Two B – Analyzing Overanalyzing

]]> By: Tony Kummer http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/comment-page-1/#comment-2220 Tony Kummer Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:34:13 +0000 http://saidatsouthern.com/ministering-in-a-difficult-church/#comment-2220 Terry, Thanks for the summary. Dr. Lawless is definitely one of Southerns best and devoted teachers. I'm looking forward to the sermon. Terry,
Thanks for the summary. Dr. Lawless is definitely one of Southerns best and devoted teachers. I’m looking forward to the sermon.

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