It wasn’t hostile, but there is definitely emotion involved that I won’t apologize for. I do believe Stephen’s comment was uncalled for. Hushing people up and telling us that he knows something about Jesus that we don’t is condescending. I did admit that I didn’t know him, so there is always the possibility I misinterpreted, but I think his comment is fairly clear.

Nathan DeFalco
Jacksonville, FL

I’d like to appeal to you to abide by the Said at Southern user expectations and properly identify yourself. That is probably the single biggest means of accountability we have to prevent discussions from degenerating into a flame war.

G F McDowell’s last blog post..Relevant Church 30-day Sex Challenge update

We ALL know Jesus isn’t either. But, is Jesus for corrupt sinful men swiping all the power they can and using it to further their evil deeds? No, He isn’t. So, therefore he isn’t for socialism- which is what happens in every single socialist regime in the history of the world. A slide toward socialism is a slide toward further corruption.

THAT is why we are having this debate. We do not want to see man find even more efficient ways to futher his own sin. So, the question at hand is: Is McCain leading us toward more socialism or less? In other words, is he wanting to grab more power for his own means and ends or less? Is he upholding individual freedom (from invasion of privacy, invasion of speech, income tax, emminent domain, abortion, etc) so that corruption will be far more difficult to obtain or is he a “government knows best” candidate?

Saying that Jesus is above politics is so obvious that it makes me wonder if you’re saying that with a condescending attitude. I don’t know you Stephen, but I’d be very careful next time saying things like that when people have spent a significant amount of time articulating their opinion on this message board.

Stephen Newell’s last blog post..Interview With Daniel B. Wallace

G. F. McDowell,
My words are especially well thought-out. I appreciate you giving me the chance to clarify them.

During the primaries so-called “evangelical” so-called “Christian” voters had two candidates who made their faith a part of their up-front conversation, those being Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. These two are not upstarts both having an honorable legacy of leadership.

Now that the media has all but taken the convention process out of the picture by swooning over themselves in declaring McCain the obvious choice, the same “evangelical” “Christians” now want to jump on the bandwagon to throw their support to McCain for one reason — defeat the Democrats by supporting the lesser of two evils.

Assuming a Christian is someone that has received salvation from his sins by the blood of Jesus Christ (which is what I understand and believe) and also assuming that as such a person, one should have repented and turned from sin and evil in service to Jesus Christ, an obvious dilema occurs. Does turning from sin and evil not matter in political races or supporting evil in any form, lesser or greater, is it really ok?

Throw your support at McCain. But search the reasons why? If any of your reasoning is because of the flawed lesser of two evil ethic then I suggest that what you call apostasy is legitimate.

Does a person support Christ in every area of his walk or just in the Sunday School/Church/Seminary walks? One is real.

Scott’s last blog post..Every Valley Shall Be Exalted

Scott, I don’t think your words are especially well thought-out here, and I’d like to give you a chance to clarify them. Did you really say that casting a vote for someone with whom I do not share a worldview is an act of apostasy?

G F McDowell’s last blog post..Relevant Church 30-day Sex Challenge update

McCain’s spotty conservative track record does not give me any encouragement as to the possibilities for this coming election. Yes, I am of the ilk that I believe I need to have someone to vote for rather than to have someone to vote against.

I am saddened that Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee did not receive more traction and attention. But it does seem to me that Ron Paul’s message will get traction over the next generation. I can understand why he was part of the delegation to get Reagan on the GOP ticket in 1976 and why Reagan called Paul a conservative’s conservative.

Are any of you like me and really, really missing Ronald Reagan about now?

Matthew Perry’s last blog post..Fundamental to the Gospel of Salvation

*Democrats are morally bankrupt — generally speaking as a party (anti-marriage, anti-life, etc.)

*Republicans (aka ‘Bush administration leadership’) are hamstrung by torture, war, missed opportunities to take high-road (why wouldn’t Bush do more against abortion for instance), and an innate ability to let the Democrats set the agenda (read as “reactionary instead of proactive.)

*If a vote for McCain is just to “keep the Dems out” then how is that better than the current brand of GOP? Especially if all we get is more of the same. And that is just about what McCain seems to be saying.

* Christianity in our country has become so watered-down that the Huckabees/Pauls, who bring a strong non-apologetic Christianity to bear, are not being supported by the young, supposedly vibrant, conservative Christians. They seem to be taking the easy way out and letting the “popular opinion” lead the way instead of an unwavering Christian worldview.

Why should my vote go to a person, regardless of political affiliation, that does not espouse my worldview? That is the same as denouncing my belief, my faith, my God. Unless McCain becomes less like his Democratic rivals, I see no hope for political leadership.

Scott’s last blog post..Every Valley Shall Be Exalted

I didn’t just make that one up. I sat here awhile and thought about it.

I just made that one up as well!

TerryDelaney’s last blog post..Unexpected Time of Prayer

(I made that up on the spot if you couldn’t tell….

Brother Hank’s last blog post..Standing Out In The Cold: Further Confessions of a Christian Pro-Life Activist

I will admit that it is very possible, especially for me since I can manually edit the outcomes!

Not that I have or would.

Be sure to vote, YES, as I’m sure you have changed your mind since yesterday, being utterly convinced by my arguments