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		<title>By: &#8220;We Get It&#8221; Declaration: Caring for the Environment and the Poor Biblically &#124; Said at Southern Seminary</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;We Get It&#8221; Declaration: Caring for the Environment and the Poor Biblically &#124; Said at Southern Seminary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Poll - Southern Baptist Environment &amp; Climate Initiative  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why Albert Mohler Did Not Sign The Southern Baptist Environment &#38; Climate Initative &#124; Said at Southern Seminary</title>
		<link>http://saidatsouthern.com/poll-southern-baptist-environment-climate-initative/comment-page-1/#comment-2437</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Albert Mohler Did Not Sign The Southern Baptist Environment &#38; Climate Initative &#124; Said at Southern Seminary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wanted to follow up last night&#8217;s post about Southern Baptist&#8217;s and the environment by pointing you to Dr. Mohler&#8217;s thoughtful [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wanted to follow up last night&#8217;s post about Southern Baptist&#8217;s and the environment by pointing you to Dr. Mohler&#8217;s thoughtful [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Delaney</title>
		<link>http://saidatsouthern.com/poll-southern-baptist-environment-climate-initative/comment-page-1/#comment-2435</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the entry point for Christians in general and Southern Baptists specifically is the area of stewardship.  Unfortunately, the buzz word is not stewardship but global-warming.  I believe that this stuff is cyclical and that man really does not have as much of an effect as we would like to think we do.  I think we give ourselves too much credit (if that makes sense at all) in having such a huge impact on the atmosphere and such.  

I would say, then, that we should be good stewards of what God has given us.  In this case, it is the earth.

&lt;em&gt;Terry Delaney&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://sbtsstudent.blogspot.com/2008/03/tired-before-exhausting-exam.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tired Before an Exhausting Exam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the entry point for Christians in general and Southern Baptists specifically is the area of stewardship.  Unfortunately, the buzz word is not stewardship but global-warming.  I believe that this stuff is cyclical and that man really does not have as much of an effect as we would like to think we do.  I think we give ourselves too much credit (if that makes sense at all) in having such a huge impact on the atmosphere and such.  </p>
<p>I would say, then, that we should be good stewards of what God has given us.  In this case, it is the earth.</p>
<p><em>Terry Delaney&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://sbtsstudent.blogspot.com/2008/03/tired-before-exhausting-exam.html' rel="nofollow">Tired Before an Exhausting Exam</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Kummer</title>
		<link>http://saidatsouthern.com/poll-southern-baptist-environment-climate-initative/comment-page-1/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Kummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ERLC has tried to represent the SBC position as expressed by resolutions in 2006 &amp; 2007. 

Obviously there is some confusion about this &quot;Southern Baptist Environment and Climate Initiative.&quot; I&#039;ve talked to several people who think it is some kind of official SBC committee.

But Baptist press has gone to great lengths to say this is not a statement speaking for the SBC. Their top news article says it all &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27582&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seminary student&#039;s climate change project is not SBC&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;

By the looks of our poll, this issue is not close to settled in Southern Baptist life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ERLC has tried to represent the SBC position as expressed by resolutions in 2006 &#038; 2007. </p>
<p>Obviously there is some confusion about this &#8220;Southern Baptist Environment and Climate Initiative.&#8221; I&#8217;ve talked to several people who think it is some kind of official SBC committee.</p>
<p>But Baptist press has gone to great lengths to say this is not a statement speaking for the SBC. Their top news article says it all <a href="http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27582" rel="nofollow">Seminary student&#8217;s climate change project is not SBC&#8217;s</a></p>
<p>By the looks of our poll, this issue is not close to settled in Southern Baptist life.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Braymen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah Braymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed unfortunate.  I work at the erlc in Wash DC and there are many things that are unfortunate about this!  I just don&#039;t know where to start.  Let&#039;s see what happens today:^)

In Christ,
Noah

&lt;em&gt;Noah Braymen&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://newlynearlymarried.blogspot.com/2008/03/chuck-e-cheese.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chuck E Cheese&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed unfortunate.  I work at the erlc in Wash DC and there are many things that are unfortunate about this!  I just don&#8217;t know where to start.  Let&#8217;s see what happens today:^)</p>
<p>In Christ,<br />
Noah</p>
<p><em>Noah Braymen&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://newlynearlymarried.blogspot.com/2008/03/chuck-e-cheese.html' rel="nofollow">Chuck E Cheese</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bryant Owens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryant Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I agree that Christians are mandated to be good stewards of all that God has created, I do not see the currently hype of global warming as part of this mandate. Nowhere in Scripture are fear tactics allowed. 

Should we all consider living a more simple lifestyle? Yes.
Should we all consume less? Yes.
Should we all point fingers of blame based on science that is at best questionable and full of conspiracy? NO!!

Our modern science on weather is less than 150 years old. This is a microscopic measurement of trends compared to the thousands of years of creation&#039;s existence. Climate changes. Period. (remember Noah and the flood?)

But it is GOD who controls climate change, not the creatures he placed here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree that Christians are mandated to be good stewards of all that God has created, I do not see the currently hype of global warming as part of this mandate. Nowhere in Scripture are fear tactics allowed. </p>
<p>Should we all consider living a more simple lifestyle? Yes.<br />
Should we all consume less? Yes.<br />
Should we all point fingers of blame based on science that is at best questionable and full of conspiracy? NO!!</p>
<p>Our modern science on weather is less than 150 years old. This is a microscopic measurement of trends compared to the thousands of years of creation&#8217;s existence. Climate changes. Period. (remember Noah and the flood?)</p>
<p>But it is GOD who controls climate change, not the creatures he placed here.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Lange</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Lange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think there is anything wrong with being a good steward of the earth, but to believing in global warming is going a little far.  It is junk science and a cloak for the socialist/communist agenda.  Al Gore is behind this nonsense, doesn&#039;t that say enough?  Global warming is nothing more than a big hoax.

&lt;em&gt;Terry Lange&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://fromtheunknown.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/is-the-majority-always-right/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is the majority always right?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think there is anything wrong with being a good steward of the earth, but to believing in global warming is going a little far.  It is junk science and a cloak for the socialist/communist agenda.  Al Gore is behind this nonsense, doesn&#8217;t that say enough?  Global warming is nothing more than a big hoax.</p>
<p><em>Terry Lange&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://fromtheunknown.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/is-the-majority-always-right/' rel="nofollow">Is the majority always right?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Kummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Kummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - I agree the issue is very complicated for a little poll, I often say these polls are more entertainment than anything. 

By voting &lt;em&gt;&quot;Two resolutions said enough, the SBC should focus on missions, not the environment&quot;&lt;/em&gt; you are saying the 2006 &amp; 2007 resolution are enough for now. 

Richard Land made this point when he responded to this group. He points out that some of the language in the declaration was actually defeated by vote at the convention last summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; I agree the issue is very complicated for a little poll, I often say these polls are more entertainment than anything. </p>
<p>By voting <em>&#8220;Two resolutions said enough, the SBC should focus on missions, not the environment&#8221;</em> you are saying the 2006 &#038; 2007 resolution are enough for now. </p>
<p>Richard Land made this point when he responded to this group. He points out that some of the language in the declaration was actually defeated by vote at the convention last summer.</p>
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		<title>By: John Stickley</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Stickley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure there are really enough options in that poll to adequately capture my opinion.

Mine&#039;s more along the lines of, &quot;Yes, a biblical worldview will include environmental stewardship, and we need to ensure Christians understand that.  But no, the SBC does not need to take official stances on what constitutes good environmental stewardship and push those agendas, particularly on matters on which there is not clear-cut evidence as to what constitutes good environmental stewardship.&quot;

Too long for the poll, I know.

The way I see it, this issue should be framed similarly to the BF&amp;M...  specific enough to identify Biblical truths we Baptists hold dear, but not so specific as to try to narrow matters down to certain specific interpretations of Scripture.

&lt;em&gt;John Stickley&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TowardTheGoal/~3/249026169/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Baptists Going Green…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure there are really enough options in that poll to adequately capture my opinion.</p>
<p>Mine&#8217;s more along the lines of, &#8220;Yes, a biblical worldview will include environmental stewardship, and we need to ensure Christians understand that.  But no, the SBC does not need to take official stances on what constitutes good environmental stewardship and push those agendas, particularly on matters on which there is not clear-cut evidence as to what constitutes good environmental stewardship.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too long for the poll, I know.</p>
<p>The way I see it, this issue should be framed similarly to the BF&amp;M&#8230;  specific enough to identify Biblical truths we Baptists hold dear, but not so specific as to try to narrow matters down to certain specific interpretations of Scripture.</p>
<p><em>John Stickley&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TowardTheGoal/~3/249026169/' rel="nofollow">Baptists Going Green…</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Kummer</title>
		<link>http://saidatsouthern.com/poll-southern-baptist-environment-climate-initative/comment-page-1/#comment-2416</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Kummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was a mistake to frame this as an &quot;Southern Baptist&quot; initiative. The previous resolutions may be weak, but they are the official statements. 

I really like the idea of saying more about the environment, but having a para-convention organization endorsed by all those denomination employees is a little confusing for outsiders and insiders alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was a mistake to frame this as an &#8220;Southern Baptist&#8221; initiative. The previous resolutions may be weak, but they are the official statements. </p>
<p>I really like the idea of saying more about the environment, but having a para-convention organization endorsed by all those denomination employees is a little confusing for outsiders and insiders alike.</p>
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